How many people live in El Refugio?

About 6,262 people, according to the GeoNames dataset this page draws on. Population figures for smaller places are estimates and can be out of date.

What time zone is El Refugio in?

El Refugio uses the America/Mexico_City time zone.

What is near El Refugio?

The nearest town or city is Tala, about 4 km away — El Refugio lies north-west of it.

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El Refugio

Tala • Jalisco • Mexico

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El Refugio is a town in Tala, Jalisco, Mexico. It has a population of about 7,121 and an elevation of 1,307 m. It is on Central Standard Time. It lies 4.4 km north-west of Tala. Its nearest neighbours are Tala (4.4 km), Los Ruiseñores (6.5 km), and San Juan de los Arcos (7.7 km).

Time zone: America/Mexico_City
Coordinates: 20.6719, -103.7381
Population: 6,262
Elevation: 1,307 m

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3Create an offer. Free to make, free to run.
4TimTim shows it to people exploring this place.
5A curator recommends it to people who trust them.
6An ambassador shares it with the community.
7A customer taps the link — and the tap is counted.
8They claim or redeem the offer.
9The sale is verified before anything else happens.
10Revenue is attributed to whoever helped.
11Your dashboard updates.
12Only then does TimTim's agreed fee apply.

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People who saw the page: 310
People who saw the offer: 182
Curator recommendations: 3
Shares by ambassadors: 7
Taps on the offer: 64
Offers claimed: 41
Redeemed in person: 28
Verified sales: $1,240

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How much is known about here

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Questions about El Refugio

Where is El Refugio?: El Refugio is a town in Tala, Jalisco, Mexico.
How many people live in El Refugio?: About 6,262 people, according to the GeoNames dataset this page draws on. Population figures for smaller places are estimates and can be out of date.
What time zone is El Refugio in?: El Refugio uses the America/Mexico_City time zone.
What are the coordinates of El Refugio?: 20.6719, -103.7381.
What is near El Refugio?: The nearest town or city is Tala, about 4 km away — El Refugio lies north-west of it.

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What you can do for El Refugio

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Collect this place's stamp
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Share a song from here with someone
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Check a neighbour's contribution
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If you know El Refugio

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El Refugio through the years

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